I commented earlier, "I can only see yours and LKY's understanding on scriptures is very "Man-chanics" and very academic. Lack the touch of the Holy Spirit." He responded and asked me for an explanation to what I meant. I replied him (he may or may not have published it yet).
Interesting"Pharisees" on the last note
Daring Kok Seng to use such a quote
People back in Jesus days, seriously
Were the most learned Pharisees and Sadducee
One was a master of the Oral Law
The other, an expert in Written Law
Probably strong in linguistics too
Paid much attention to grammar just like you
Full of knowledge and education
But a bankrupt in revelation.
Jesus stood right in front of them
Yet they know not the Messiah is with them
Man-chanic or Man-chanistic means lots of works and understanding relating to man's ability. The scholastics will be impressed by your academic explanation.
Lack of the Holy Spirit means lack of revelation from God, i.e. some people just can't see Jesus as the personification of God's grace because it is blocked by a preposition. Similarly, in another common verse speaks of Jesus as the Way, the Truth, and the Life! We need a lot of the Holy Spirit (not knowledge or grammar skills though important but not the most) when we read the scriptures and the Holy Spirit will give us understanding. Holy Spirit also will show us humility.Please excuse me, I was feeling a bit poetic when I composed my response. I made some grammar mistakes also in my response to Szezeng. I hope he helps to correct them. He is quite good in linguistics.
See his response, this was what he wrote:
You be the judge: he showed rejection of the Holy Spirit and a display of vulgarity. I rest my case.
Lack of the Holy Spirit means lack of revelation from God, i.e. some people just can't see Jesus as the personification of God's grace because it is blocked by a preposition. Similarly, in another common verse speaks of Jesus as the Way, the Truth, and the Life! We need a lot of the Holy Spirit (not knowledge or grammar skills though important but not the most) when we read the scriptures and the Holy Spirit will give us understanding. Holy Spirit also will show us humility.Please excuse me, I was feeling a bit poetic when I composed my response. I made some grammar mistakes also in my response to Szezeng. I hope he helps to correct them. He is quite good in linguistics.
See his response, this was what he wrote:
You be the judge: he showed rejection of the Holy Spirit and a display of vulgarity. I rest my case.
Hi C-A,
ReplyDeleteI don't reject the Holy Spirit, but witness too many attempts made by too many people to domesticate the Holy Spirit.
Sze Zeng:
ReplyDeleteIf it is bullshit for telling people that Jesus is Grace and Truth, then who is the false teacher here? So domesticating your human spirit is permissible? I hear a problem on not able to discern what is from the Holy Spirit and what is not, therefore you write-off even someone who is truly lead by the Holy Spirit? That is generalising, isn't it? Generalising is generally lies.
Hi C-A,
ReplyDeleteThank you for the comment.
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. (John 1.17)
JP’s understanding of the passage does not make any sense. It is clear that the preposition ‘through’ does not grant JP the liberty to simply assert, “Jesus is grace”.
If someone says, “This letter came through that door”, we cannot conclude that the letter is the door. To understand that ‘the letter is the door’ makes no sense at all. The letter came through the door; the letter is NOT the door. Simple logic.
Therefore the idea that 'Jesus is Grace' is not in the Bible. And since it is not in the Bible, it is bullshit.
And here I'm very clear that I'm contending against "Jesus is the Truth". John 14.6 is clear that Jesus is the Truth. This is not bullshit because it's in the Bible. If JP says Jesus is the Truth, I'll say "Amen". The problem with "Jesus is Grace" is not in the Bible.
Can someone who make a claim that is not supported by the Bible be of the Holy Spirit? Definitely not. Because if it is through the Holy Spirit, then the claim should be found in the Bible.
Hence, I am not generalising here. I'm dealing with a specific text (John 1.17) used by JP.